Friday, July 21, 2023

当我们相遇

韩剧《车贞淑医生》(Dr Cha)在Netflix延迟几个小时播出,车医生跟《浪漫医生金师傅3》(Dr Romentic 3Disney+延后播放),在韩国同时竞技,轮流坐镇收视率冠亚军。

韩剧《车贞淑医生》(Dr Cha)。图片来源:互联网

《车贞淑医生》以医院与家庭生活为背景,穿插小三和爱慕者的情节,或许称其为家庭剧或师奶剧更合适。

为家庭牺牲20多年,下半生重新做回自己的车医生,从专检家婆二手货的家庭主妇,回到陌生的职场。对许多为了家庭放弃事业,失去经济能力的女性来说,或许是莫大的鼓舞。对于车医生这个讨人喜欢的角色,男观众并不排斥,再加上众演员们的努力,这部男女老少皆宜的连续剧让人爱不释手。

很多时候,人的心头老是纠结,放不下,所以产生很多怨恨,很苦很痛;放下,等于是释放别人,释放自己,让大家找到新的生活。人生如戏,戏如人生,偶然间跟车医生相遇,或许从戏文的笑骂声中,得到一些启发。

 

自成一派

张曼娟的《自成一派》容易读,像是作者与读者间的闲聊对话,围绕着父母亲患病后,需要她照顾,生活面对变化的心情。

或许年龄相若,同年龄的人,认真地经历过人生,字里行间引起许多共鸣。

偶尔半夜醒来,觉得心跳频率有别,或者头部血管一张一缩,卜卜声听得一清二楚。萌生一个念头:现在睡着了,早晨是否还会如常醒来?但觉每一天都是花红。

兴起另一个念头:有没有好好地爱过自己?

张曼娟《自成一派》

 

撑一支长篙,向青草更青处漫溯

不全然是车医生,也不全然是《自成一派》,只是看别人的时候有些感同身受。偶尔回头,不禁这么想,十多年前痛下决心,为人生下半场潇洒地朗诵起徐志摩的诗歌,“寻梦?撑一支长篙,向青草更青处漫溯;满载一船星辉,在星辉斑斓里放歌。”至于曾经的辉煌,“我挥一挥衣袖,不带走一片云彩”。在全新的跑道上,为自己呐喊加油,这样启航的下半场不会复还了。

如果那时候觉得来日方长,可以多等十年,十年后,精力开始走下坡,外在的环境也变了。冠病疫情大流行,所有计划都被打乱,许多过来人已经不在人世,往事记忆浮光掠影。当下不可能回到过去十多年的跑道,人生会增添许多遗憾,甚至可能会有挫败感。

所以,还是相信,有个大方向,能承受预估的风险,那就爽快地上路吧。古来征战几人回,余生不可能越来越长,只有越来越短,万里,百里,十里,然后最后一里。

最后一里路,缘来是你。感谢有你。

 

早报文学节暨城市阅读节

2023526日,天猛公艺术基金会,天猛公路28号。

《联合早报》副刊主编胡文雁统筹的早报文学节暨城市阅读节,在花柏山下的黑白屋别开生面地掀起帷幕,江湖上绰号Durian Queen(榴槤皇后)的早报社长李慧玲,以黑金设宴。

《联合早报》副刊主编胡文雁主持新书发布会《告别1949》

当日我口舌运动,其余感官都不灵了,不知道有没有文化高净值人士即兴创作《榴槤颂》。

社长贴文介绍: 远远看到文化奖得主林高,新崛起的作家林任君963电台主播陈丽仪,都是讲究文化内涵之人。

文化奖得主林高(左一),“新崛起的作家”林任君 (右二),963电台主播陈丽仪(右一),都是讲究文化内涵之人

昔日调转船头,获得多方文化人的滋润。阅读他们的文字,聆听他们的声音,跟随他们的脚步,接受他们的祝福。日子一天一天过,看到的仿佛是另一个世界,一个花香草绿的平行世界。

 

古早印象

20181月,人在缅甸自由行,蒲甘平原数不清的佛塔,伊洛瓦底江金光闪闪的黄昏,茵莱湖单脚捕鱼的渔夫,……改制后的缅甸充满希望。

接到远在新加坡的来电,电话另一头是把空中熟悉的声音,她叫黄淑君,电台958《印象古早》节目制作人。

三个星期后,第一次上印象古早节目,冷静沉着的主播,一身青涩的我。

第一次上印象古早节目,冷静沉着的主播,一身青涩的我

就这样共录制了108集,每集时长约8分钟。108,它让你想起了什么?

电台节目每年更换,印象古早这个节目就像常青树,制作人去到那里,节目跟到那里,原来古早味从未离开过舌尖。

主播的人缘广了,技巧纯熟了,大江南北的嘉宾更乐意上节目了,古早印象多元化了,我大致退隐了。

缅甸不再自由了,伊洛瓦底江变色了,我也应该不会再见到翁山淑枝了。

 

寻根探秘逍遥游

徒步,就是千里之行,始于足下。

我跟随的徒步专家郭永发,大家都叫他郭步长。为了每月的徒步,步长费尽心机搜索资料,边走路边讲故事。

他说,第一次见到我参与徒步的时候,心里慌得要命,以为没征得同意下经常转载我的博客文章,现在讨债来了。

我开个玩笑,债讨了这么多年,还是讨不清,原因是步长走路节奏太快,老是追不上。一起走,才会走得远。

互联网最大的优势,就是将知识缩短至零距离。光波绕地球一周只需一秒钟,上网按键,弹指间真真假假的资讯等着你去消化。

我从网上别人的文字和图片得到启发,从维基百科中得到组织严密、不断修正的新信息,这一切都是别人的努力,免费的。我网上的文章是给人看的,也是同样的道理。有施有舍,有舍有得,有得有失,失去放下,各取所需,结个善缘吧。

郭永发的徒步活动有个团名,叫做寻根探秘逍遥游。逍遥游了这些年,认识了新朋友,有的风雨无阻,多年来依然逍遥,有的换了一群新人。缘聚有因,缘散有果,尘与尘会相遇也会飘散。

当我们相遇,缘来是你。高兴遇见你。

郭永发(左),林高(中),甲板大街

 

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Tuesday, July 18, 2023

同名同姓洪永安

作者:何乃强
原文刊登于《联合早报》202358

 

阅读过一些和和饼干厂及和和杯的资料,知道洪永安这位名人。我曾在一个颁奖礼上看过他。

洪永安(1912-1974)是福建南安人。二战新加坡光复后,和和饼干厂宣布结束业务。洪永安联同几家大公司包括和丰油较,集资购入饼干厂继续经营,后来出任总经理。洪永安除了忙于本身业务外,还活跃于社会服务,热心推动足球与篮球体育运动。

他是中华体育促进会副会长,也是工商补习学校、华中及中华女中董事,精武体育会名誉会长和南安会馆理事。他出钱出力,带领队球队远征,四处奔波。二战时期在香港遗失的和和杯,是洪永安捐出一座崭新以纯银制造的和和杯。在一本《35年之工商 1921-1955》的学校纪念刊,以及一篇记录2014年江柏炜教授演讲:新加坡金门人对于原乡的贡献,题为《在南洋工商补习学校担任要职的新加坡金门人》的记录,我读到里面介绍学校赞助人,页内印有洪永安的半身照。但很遗憾的,编委竟然把另外一位在新加坡生活十几年,同名同姓的洪永安(1907-1989)的生平简历套了进去,张冠李戴!

这一位福建金门人洪永安,毕生从事新闻事业,也是知名作家,漱玉、丝丝是他的笔名,常以洪丝丝见称。他在1928年来到南洋,翌年出任印度尼西亚棉兰《新中华报》(原名《南洋日报》)总编辑。后来因为发表纪念济南惨案文章,被荷印殖民政府拘捕,于1931年被驱逐出境。不久他重返南洋,到槟城报界任职。1938年他来到新加坡,1942年新加坡沦陷,洪丝丝和郁达夫逃往苏门答腊避难。1945年日本投降后才回返新加坡担任《南侨晚报》主编。

19509月,由于《南侨日报》的政见激进,被新加坡英殖民地政府查封,洪丝丝也被逮捕驱逐出境。返回中国后,洪丝丝定居于北京,从事侨务工作,专注于华侨华人历史研究。他是中国共产党员,是第六届全国人大代表、第六届全国人大常委、人大华侨委员会顾问、中国民主同盟中央委员等。他毕生致力著作,著有《洪丝丝纪念集》,收录其遗著及亲友撰写的怀念文章,由新加坡金门会馆董事赞助出版。

Friday, July 14, 2023

Changing river shoreline

I grew up by the Singapore River. My father rented a small room akin to a room size of HDB flat from a shophouse owner on Hill Street, about 50 metre from the Coleman Bridge. In the first 19 years of my life with the family of six, I witnessed the busy activities on the river and the daily lives of the boatmen.

I liked to stand on the Coleman Bridge, looking at twakows manoeuvring in the water. I admired coolies walking on wooden planks between those boats and the river banks with heavy rice sacks loaded on their shoulders. I always wondered what if those planks broke in half but never happened. In the later years, some of those cargoes were unloaded by lifting trucks. I missed those busy and lively scenes.

A twakow worker manoeuvring the boat with a long wooden pole at South Boat Quay, 1982. Credit: Ronni Pinsler 

During the foundation years of the colonial era 200 years ago, Indian boat builders came with the British East India Company and built small Indian Tongkangs. These small wooden boats were propelled by paddles and wooden poles.

When Chinese business flourished in the second half of the 19th century, the Chinese ventured into the wooden boat business and constructed larger tongkang and twakow. As tongkang became larger, the Cavanagh Bridge at the mouth of the Singapore River constrained them from entering. Chinese tongkangs were usually berthed at the Kallang River or Beach Road near the Kallang River mouth.

Warehouses at the river banks mainly stored gambier, rice, tea leaves and dairy products. Whampoa Ice House once sat at Hill Street and River Valley Road junction next to Coleman Bridge. In the 1840s Hoo Ah Kay (Mr Whampoa) imported ice cubes from the US but the business did not turn up well. The Ice House was closed after a few years of misadventure.

This rubber factory on River Valley Road next to the Singapore River had been demolished in the 1980s. It was where the Whampoa Ice House originally located. Credit: URA, NAS

People did everything on the river – work, live, play and shit. There were medical halls, roadside hawkers, barbers, New Market, charcoal shops etc. You name it, they had it.  Charcoals shipped from Indonesia and unloaded by the river. That gave rise to the name “charcoal berth” (柴船头). There were even Teochew opera stages built on the river. At night some coolies preferred to stay on the boats or under the bridges than in the coolie quarters (估俚间). Coolie quarters were congested, dirty and smelly.

 

The loss of the last two twakows

The last two twakows, built in 1868 and 1972, on the Singapore River had gone in mid-2023. These boats were used as floating restaurants since 1993 and seemed to be affected badly by Covid 19 lockdown.

According to a spokesman for the historical precinct CQ@Clarke Quay owned by the subsidiaries of CapitaLand, these twakows deteriorated to such an extent that beyond repair and technically difficult to preserve.

In early June 2023, one of the boats had been towed to Kallang Riverside Park to dismantle. The second boat was making its way too one month later.

The first Twakow being dismantled at the Kallang Riverside Park in June 2023. Credit: Eddie Lee

The Straits Times (June 27, 2023) reported, these boats went through refurbishment more than 10 years ago with over S$1 million. Looking at the current states of the two twakows, it was beyond imagination that their hull conditions degraded so badly within such a short period after “proper restoration works” were carried out. The only probable possibility was refurbished with substandard materials and workmanship, especially the skilled wooden boat builders, repairers and workers phased out from the local scene in the 1980s.

  

The significance of Twakows

Twakows, also commonly grouped under the generic term “lighters”, were once the lifeline of the Singapore River, bridging seagoing cargo vessels and godowns by transporting goods between them. Twakows played an important role in supporting the domestic economy of the past.

Twakows were built by wooden boat yards at the banks of the Kallang River. There were repair shacks set up along Beach Road, under the Merdeka Bridge, as well as Pulau Saigon and Kim Seng Bridge at the upper reach of the Singapore River.

Twakows were built without any design drawing. They are a fusion of wisdom, science and craftsmanship. I do not think we can find something identical in design and construction methods in other parts of the world. The combination of the river and Twakows is uniquely Singaporean. Today only a few twakows are left and are countable using one hand. I have seen one plying between Pandan River and Marina Pier.

With warehouses set up along the banks of the Singapore River, lighters became the key asset to bridge the seagoing ships and riverside godowns. Singapore had about 3,000 wooden lighters during its heyday. Their presence will serve as a reminder of the legacy of our nation. They may turn into a floating museum, for example. The nation will leave with pure imagination with the loss of the remaining cargo-carrying wooden boats.

The bows of these wooden boats are either Red or Green, red for Teochew and green for Hokkien. Twakow is “tua-go” in Teochew, “tua-gor” in Hokkien. Cantonese called them “big-eye rooster” (大眼鸡) because there are a pair of eyes at the bow to recognise their way home.

Such unique creations, if present, will help to keep the depth of our nation alive beyond San Nila Utama and Stamford Raffles.

  

Flag system

To complement the river shoreline, a complex flag system was in place on Fort Canning Hill that was used to signal the arrival of ships. The workers would rush out by boats to reach the ships first so that they could stake a claim on unloading the goods and bringing them to shore.

The flagstaff on Fort Canning Hill and Mt. Faber speaks a lot about Singapore’s maritime trade. Not long after the founding of modern Singapore, boats from the eastern and western parts of the world anchored outside the esplanade. The flagstaff on Fort Canning Hill provided pertinent information on boats’ arrival, departure, identity, location, etc. With the development of New Harbour, the flagstaff on Mt. Faber did exactly the same.

Flagstaff from Government Bungalow (1828). Credit: NMS

Works by the river were not benign for the coolies, mostly Chinese. One side of those wooden planks rested on the boats and another side on the river banks. Workers carried rice sacks, coffee beans and dairy products, among others, probably loaded 100 kati (60 kg) or more on their shoulders while crossing the river. When I was young, I thought the planks would break at any time. However, they did not. The flipping rhythm helped to “reduce weight” in a way.

When unloaded, the coolies would put a chopstick into a can. Chopsticks were to account for the goods that were carried. The coolies were paid accordingly.

 

River shoreline

Some people called the rounded portion of the boat quay the “belly of the carp”. I had never heard that term before until recent years. I would think it is “the tummy of the laughing Buddha”, a lucky sign of fortune and wealth. Many Chinese businesses flourished here and fuelled the river’s popularity.

In 1822, Sir Stamford Raffles inaugurated Singapore’s first land reclamation project along the south bank of the Singapore River. The purpose was to set up a commercial centre there. The Commercial Square was later developed into Raffles Place.

 The Singapore River was the economic lifeline where shipping congregated. However, the water of the river was too shallow for larger ships. With the arrival of steamships, there was a need to develop a deep-water port. This was the “New Harbour”— renamed Keppel Harbour in honour of Admiral Henry Keppel in 1900.

  

Where did immigrants land?

Immigrants first landed at the seaside along Telok Ayer Street before the land was reclaimed. Johnston’s Pier was constructed in the 1850s for sea travellers' convenient arrival and departure. The pier was opposite the Fullerton Hotel today. Johnston’s Pier was replaced by the nearby Clifford Pier in the 1930s. 

Telok Ayer 1846

The development of the New Harbour was a slow process. In the 1860s, dry docks and warehouses for coal were built in anticipation of steamships’ arrival. Coolies would replenish tons of coal for the ships for their next journey. Only in the late 19th century, European travellers from large steamships would depart from the New Harbour. They would experience the city by “jalan tepi laut”, aka skirting the seashore.

Since the 1830s, Chinese immigrants formed the majority in Singapore. They were mainly coolies at that time. By the early 20th century, the Chinese formed about three-quarters of the total population.  Looking back, this was mainly due to Singapore having evolved into a harbour city from global import and export trading. It provided job opportunities for young men from the rural peasants of China. In the later years, young women came and joined the workforce as construction workers and domestic servants.


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Tuesday, July 11, 2023

和和杯与吴克俭

作者:何乃强
原文刊登于《联合早报》2023424

 

新加坡年约七八十岁的人,相信还记得和和杯足球赛,是新加坡、马来亚及香港的体坛大事。我在上世纪50年代,常跟随长辈到惹兰勿刹足球场观看球赛,成了小球迷,知道新加坡有门将朱志成、前锋谢文良(不久前去世)和胡文相、符气荣;以及香港的华南球王李惠堂、黑仔何应芬和前锋朱永强等人的大名。

和和杯起源于一位热心促进足球运动的商人吴克俭(Gaw Khek Khiam1885-1936)。在1924年,他以饼干厂名义,捐出一座时值200英镑银杯——和和杯,倡议香港与马来亚两地华人作常年埠际足球比赛,争夺和和杯。

吴克俭是陈英娘的第二儿子(英娘道以她命名),在莱佛士书院受英文教育,在英国留学三年,1904年毕业于矿产科。吴克俭的父亲吴文灿(1859-1911)被人买凶枪杀,由他继承父亲所拥有的和和饼干厂业务。他曾出任华商银行经理及多家公司董事,受委殖民地政府多处公职。

和和杯在二战太平洋战争时在香港遗失,1949年,和和饼干厂以纯银重新铸造另一座时值43000叻元的和和杯。和和杯赛历经很多波折,往往未能如期举行,也碰上一方多次以种种缘由弃办,甚至主办单位及球员代表单位也一时弄不清,筹办经费亦出问题。个中原因,耐人寻味。相信是吴克俭在1936年欧游期间猝死后,乏人领导推动杯赛,群龙无首。和和杯赛后来改为两年一度的埠际比赛。

到了1969年,新加坡虽已独立多年,新加坡球员还是被纳入马华队,而居港中国大陆和台湾籍球员则可代表香港出赛。从1970年开始,因为新马的多元种族人口结构关系,非华人队员可以加入华族球队参加比赛。

历经六七年的商议,和和杯最终在1975年改制为新华、马华及港华埠际三角赛。在这期间,也出现了新马港三埠的“百欣杯”、“胡好杯”足球比赛。和和杯最后一次比赛是在1982年,此后又再停赛。到了1991年,经过多方努力商讨复办和和杯赛失败,和和杯从此封尘槟城。

我阅读这段近百年的足球发展史料,觉得所发生的事“一片凌乱”,有必要邀请研究新马港足球发展史的学者去梳理,出版史册,以资记录参考。

Friday, July 07, 2023

黑白屋事件

202373日,我锁定在CNA网络几个小时,观看关于律政兼内政部长尚穆根(K. Shanmugam)和外交部长维文(Dr. Vivian Balakrishnan)租用黑白屋的国会现场报道。

事件起因是2018年,尚穆根和维文两人分别租用莱道路(Ridout Road26号与31号的黑白屋,月租为26500元与19000元,维文的屋子于2022年续约时上调至2万元。革新党秘书长肯尼斯·惹耶勒南(Kenneth Jeyaretnam)提出质疑,结果越演越烈。

莱道路(Ridout Road26号与31号的黑白屋。图片来源:CNA

首先,部长有贪污吗?贪污调查局彻查后认为两人清白,国务资政兼国家安全统筹部长张志贤受委进一步调查,得出相同结论。议员同意两人没有违法、滥权,或者获得特殊待遇,因此诚信上没有异议。

其次,两人的行为有利益冲突(conflict of interest)吗?张志贤重复解释,如果执行职务或责任(duty or responsibility from the office)和个人利益交叉,就会构成利益冲突,否则不可能。这起黑白屋事件,虽然尚穆根同时掌管土管局,但他早已做出安排,将自己抽离;土管局不在维文的权力范围,因此更不可能构成利益冲突。议员也同意两人没有从租屋中谋取个人财务利益。

第三,两人的行为可能被视为存在利益冲突(perceived conflict of interest)吗?尚穆根或许,虽然张志贤坚持利益冲突并不存在的观点,不过看来无法就“被视为”说服众朝野议员,相信对社会人士来说也是一样。

 

还有什么应该关注?

我觉得还有几点应该关注的。

首先是避嫌,两位部长在内阁几十年,应该懂得瓜田李下的道理。维文租屋由妻子和房屋经纪处理,租约亦不像尚穆根那样土地增加了1.5倍,他的处理方式应该可被接受。

尚穆根表示将废置的土地纳入租用范围,是基于安全与维修考量,但相信他的解释,还是在“被视为存在利益冲突”环节上难以服众。就如他于国会次日接受记者访问时所说的,或许应该第一时间拒绝土管局将土地面积从原来的9350平方米,增加至23164平方米,租金依旧的建议。

第二是为什么土地多了1.5倍,租金却没增加?土地价格到底如何计算呢?根据律政部第二部长唐振辉的解释,新加坡有约600间受保留黑白屋,它们的租金以建筑面积计算,而不是土地面积。

唐振辉的解释带出两个问题:第一个疑问是,黑白屋占用的土地远超过建筑面积,为什么寸土尺金的新加坡,组屋住户购买门前的走廊都必须以面积计算,黑白屋的空置土地却是免费的?若以土地面积计算,尚穆根的屋子每平方米只需1.15元,肯定物超所值;第二个疑问是,新加坡许多老地方都已改头换面,许多人被迫搬迁,官方理由是新加坡地方小,必须征用土地来发展。既然如此,需要保留多少殖民地年代兴建的黑白“豪宅”,释放多少黑白屋地段供发展才算合理呢?

第三是调查报告显示部长没有滥权,尚穆根叫副常任秘书给他一份黑白屋资料作为个人用途,他在国会解释其实是为了让手下知道他打算租下黑白屋。他大可像通知两位内阁成员(英兰妮和张志贤)那样,直接告诉常任秘书,同时像维文那样通过房屋经纪来处理。这里没有低估副常任秘书的意图,只是就事论事,高级官员若连提供黑白屋公开资料这点小事都办不到,老板会怎么看呢?

第四是有人蓄意造谣,说负责维修工程的是尚穆根儿子的公司。尚穆根在国会中强调,他是公众人物,矛头针对他就好,别将他的家人卷进来。我也认为通过造谣来抹黑他人,安上
莫须有罪名,是低劣的人身攻击手段。

国会的反对党在这起黑白屋事件表现得从容得体,相信会为他们加分。“被视为”存在的疑问是,两名部长都已60多岁, 下一届大选最迟2025年举行,他们到时还会披甲上阵吗?

 

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Tuesday, July 04, 2023

英娘道说陈英娘

作者:何乃强
原文刊登于《联合早报》2023410

 

吴文灿(Gaw Boon Chan 1859-1911)在19114月与兄长文光拆伙,成为和和饼干厂的独资老板,但四个月后,他被人买凶枪杀身亡,留下武吉知马区大幅地段和基里尼路(Killiney Road)、经禧路(Cairnhill Road)、樟宜及丹拿美那等地区产业,以及位于Syed Ali Road的豪宅,加上振瑞路(Chin Swee Road)和和饼干厂的厂地等遗产,全部由妻子陈英娘(Tan Eng Neo 1861-1941)继承。之后陈英娘曾签署一份土地交换协议,捐出一部分土地于武吉知马橡胶园公司Bukit Timah Rubber Estate Ltd),公司则在附近开辟一条道路,命名英娘道(Eng Neo Avenue),那里一带的19块地皮,也属于陈英娘名下。

1976年,英娘道成为公共交通道路,与泛岛高速公路连接,另一端是杜尼安路(Dunearn Road),成为武吉知马区很繁忙的道路。英娘道是新加坡少有以新加坡华族妇女名字命名的道路之一,其他有玉棠道(Yuk Tong Avenue)、谭崧道(Tham Soong Avenue)、碧霞路(Peck Hay Road)、佛罗伦斯路(Florence Road)等,作者曾为文介绍过这些道路。

19世纪末,已经在印度尼西亚发迹致富的吴文灿,决定离开他的出生地三宝垄(Semarang),带着妻子陈英娘举家移居新加坡经商。陈英娘来头不小,她出身印尼中爪哇岛首府三宝垄的陈姓望族(印尼语Cabang Atas),她的父亲陈敬麟可能是一位市长。陈英娘的大伯,吴文灿的兄长吴文光(Go Boon Kwan)娶了另一印尼望族黄志信(Oei Tjie Sien 1835-1900)的大女儿黄淑娘(Oei Siok Neo)为妻。淑娘的弟弟是印尼爪哇糖王、祖籍福建同安的黄仲涵(Oei Tiong Ham 1866-1924),所以,陈英娘和黄淑娘是妯娌关系,相信这些望族还是秉承着门当户对的传统观念。

陈英娘热心教育,在1924年曾以已故丈夫的名义捐赠1000叻元给新加坡女子学校,在当时来说,这是一笔巨款!

陈英娘生前住在纽顿路占地近9万平方英尺的大宅,同时拥有不远处沙奇士路(Sarkies Road)近两万平方英尺的地产。这两个地段在1948年公开拍卖。陈英娘在1941年以80高龄去世,卜葬在武吉布朗。她守节30年,墓碑上还刻上她的谥号贞洁。

她与吴文灿育有五子,吴文灿死后,和和饼干厂由她的次子克俭(Gaw Khek Khiam 1885-1936)继承经营,他热心公益是华社很有名望的领袖,因对社会有贡献而被殖民地政府封为太平绅士,可惜他英年早逝,长才未竟,令人惋惜。